Adam DeGraide:
Coming up today on David vs. Goliath. Paralysis through analysis. People get it all the time. When there’s too many choices, they choose nothing. Do you want an apocalypse? This guy wants an apocalypse.
Speaker 2:
Welcome to today’s episode of David vs. Goliath, a podcast dedicated to helping small businesses leverage technology to not only help them compete against their large competitors, but win. Your host is currently the CEO of Anthem Business Software, a three time Inc. 500 recipient and a serial entrepreneur with a passion to help small businesses everywhere find, serve, and keep more customers profitably. Please join me in welcoming your host, Adam DeGraide.
Adam DeGraide:
Hey, everyone, it’s Adam DeGraide, with another fantastic episode of the David vs. Goliath podcast. It’s a remote edition. Still in California for the holidays, looking forward to getting back to Florida soon after Christmas. But anyway, it’s going to be a fantastic interview with Jordan Scott who started Try Cobble, trycobble.com. Fascinating story, interesting product.
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Jordan Scott:
Thank you so much. I’m thrilled to talk with you today.
Adam DeGraide:
We were just talking before we started the recording and you’re in Florida, normally in New York. I’m in California, normally in Florida. The holidays, you’re just going to travel around. I was actually checking out your website today, actually yesterday as well too. Fascinating stuff. I love the idea of having technology help you plan a exciting and fun time without you always having to do something.
Jordan Scott:
Thank you.
Adam DeGraide:
It’s so funny because in one of your pieces as I was reading it, you talk about how this whole concept came to you because you’d be in these threads that everyone’s saying, “What are we doing tonight? What are we doing tonight? What are we doing tonight?” Then everyone had ideas and nobody made a decision and nobody ever did anything.
Jordan Scott:
Right.
Adam DeGraide:
I think all of us have lived that and your story’s fantastic. Tell people a little bit about Try Cobble. I signed up for it this morning myself on the app store.
Jordan Scott:
Perfect.
Adam DeGraide:
The bummer was Newport Beach is not in there, but Los Angeles is.
Jordan Scott:
Not yet.
Adam DeGraide:
Los Angeles is.
Jordan Scott:
Uh-huh.
Adam DeGraide:
Not Newport Beach. But anyway, tell the folks what is Cobble and why is it so different?
Speaker 4:
Well, thank you so much for checking it out and for downloading as well. I really appreciate that. As you said, I was very intrigued around the idea that we all struggle so much with indecision. I think especially business leaders, founders, people who are making a lot of decisions constantly. We especially are like, “I don’t want to pick dinner,” even if we’re already naturally the planners or whatever. It was just sort of this back and forth all the time, whether it was my husband or it was my friend group or whatever. As you said, the group chat was hell.
I come from a journalism background, so I love great content and great ideas and I just thought, why not couple really great content with sort of a suite of decisioning tools and really be sort of a first mover in what we’re calling decision tech. It’s all about actually acting on the things that you say you want to do and knowing when it’s a match between you and your closest connection.
The way Cobble works, is you actually connect with your closest relationships and when you both like an idea, you match with each other and then there’s all these other tools that help you actually follow through on that restaurant, on that event, on that TV show, on that recipe, whatever it is. As you mentioned, our launch city was New York, but we just launched LA and Atlanta and Miami, where I am, is coming in early January. Yeah, I hope that’s a good enough rundown of what it is.
Adam DeGraide:
I think it’s awesome. It reminds me of the… I think my wife and I get to the point where I just stopped asking her where she wants to eat. I still do it by the way, just out of kindness.
Speaker 4:
Yeah.
Adam DeGraide:
She’ll tell me something and I usually say, “No, we’re going to do this. We’re going to do something different,” because she makes decisions all day as well. I make decisions all day as well. Sometimes you want to be surprised, you want to get outside, do something a little bit abnormal. Now, this idea when it came to you, because you, I was reading on the web you raised some substantial money.
Speaker 4:
Yeah.
Adam DeGraide:
Which I’d love to talk about that as well too.
Speaker 4:
Yeah, sure, happy to.
Adam DeGraide:
Because a lot of entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs watch this podcast and a lot of small businesses watch this podcast and everyone’s always curious about how we do that. I don’t know if it’s public information, but you shared it on the web, so is it okay if I share how much you raised?
Speaker 4:
Yeah. Yes, of course. Yeah. We launched Cobble in June, of 2020. Prime pandemic time. As a quick background, originally we were focused on going out, it was all about exploring the city and going to restaurants and events. When we realized that New York was just utterly shut down, I still wanted to launch. We decided to turn our curator’s attention toward producing really great content around what to cook, what to watch. Actually, we even really supported local businesses and how they were pivoting to creating really interesting takeout and delivery. We just threw all of that into the app. We ended up launching in June, of 2020. We did raise our seed round by October of that year, money in the bank. That was just over 3 million. Now, here we are, fast forward a couple years later and we’re on the road to our series A, hoping to raise that in 2023.
Adam DeGraide:
I got to tell you, it’s interesting. First of all, New York is the worst place in the world during the lockdowns. It’s probably still reminiscent of Area 51, even there now. Florida would’ve been great. You should have started with Miami. If you started with Miami or Orlando or something, you would’ve been fine.
Speaker 4:
I think it pushed us to… Here’s the thing, here’s how I think it actually really helped us, is that when we were pitching to investors, we were very able to explain and show them how we’re not afraid to pivot, how we’re not afraid to turn when we need to turn. Hopefully that was a good indication that as we hit more road bumps, as we of course will, that we’ll know how to just sort of figure it out.
Adam DeGraide:
I love that.
Speaker 4:
It’s not like our perfect idea just went off without a hitch and it became an instant success. I think that little bit of a bumpy road actually did help in the fundraising process.
Adam DeGraide:
Yeah. 3.3 million is not a small amount of money and congratulations on raising it. What was the process that you went through to do that? Another angel who got its wings.
Speaker 4:
Yeah, here we go. I’m like, I’ve closed this messaging app. It’s not helping me. But the process… Yeah, it’s funny because now as I compare my preparation for our series A versus that seed round, Cobble is my first startup. I’m a solo first time founder. The way that we really did it was of course through the New York ecosystem of angels, but also even that first little bit of family and friend connections that I just was pitching on Zoom all day long. I made this big deck, which is another thing that’s really funny compared to what I’m doing now. It’s like I have this little baby nine-slide teaser deck. Okay, there’s going to be an option in here to shut this thing off. Am I allowed to swear on this show?
Adam DeGraide:
[inaudible 00:08:35], you’re welcome to do whatever you want. I think it’s hilarious.
Speaker 4:
Well, I’ll try to keep it together to make sure my parents aren’t horrified. But anyways, the whole idea was really I would pitch someone, an angel investor and it would go okay. I would take them through this huge deck and maybe they were interested, maybe they weren’t, but they just passed me along to someone they knew and it was such a FOMO. We created this FOMO swirl of, “This is the app that is going to get us out of this pandemic. It’s going to bring people back together, it’s going to bring people into the world.” Everyone just wanted to get in. I think everyone was sort of grasping-
Adam DeGraide:
The nice part about what you did in raising the money in 2020, I sold my business in 2020, money was cheap.
Speaker 4:
Oh, interesting.
Adam DeGraide:
Money was massively cheap for everyone. People were totally buying things, because it was basically free money, didn’t cost them anything to borrow it. Go try to raise that now. Good luck.
Speaker 4:
I know. WE need to raise quite a bit more. Hopefully we do.
Adam DeGraide:
I know, I know what and you will if you have a great idea, which you clearly have a great idea.
Speaker 4:
Well, the difference between then-
Adam DeGraide:
We’re going to take a break. Hold on second though. We’re going to take a break right now from our corporate sponsor, because I got to get to a commercial. Then, when we come back, we’re going to continue a discussion with Jordan Scott. I’m Adam DeGraide. Stay tuned, we’ll be right back.
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Adam DeGraide:
We’re back now with Jordan and Adam, you’re handsome host. How’s everybody doing today? Hopefully you’re doing fantastic. We were just talking about the necessity to raise more money. One of the things I thought was interesting too, is you have… My new business is virtual as well too. We don’t have a corporate office where everyone goes to every day, unlike my last three software companies, we are now remote.
Speaker 2:
Nice.
Adam DeGraide:
One of the challenges is culture. One of the challenges is building a team.
Speaker 2:
Yes.
Adam DeGraide:
What are some of the things that you’re doing right now and how many people do you have? Let the watchers and listeners know a little bit about that dynamic.
Jordan Scott:
Yeah, we’re seven full-time employees. We’re hiring for three additional roles right now. The entire team, including our curators, our consultants, that’s around 25. But that being said, yeah. I mean, we launched in the middle of the pandemic and we hired everyone remotely. We have our lead backend engineer in Paris, our CFO is in London, my designer is in Chicago. We’re all spread out.
The way that we’ve sort of created a culture is through a few things. Number one, we definitely have a very casual and regular conversation going in Slack always. We really try to make that the office cooler. We have a couple of fun channels to talk about things that hopefully we would’ve talked about if we were just walking around the office. Second, is that we, every other Friday, have a set hour to do something fun together, playing Quip Lash. Have you ever played Quip Lash?
Adam DeGraide:
Oh, yeah. I love Quip Lash. I’m great at it. I’ll kick your butt.
Jordan Scott:
Yeah, we’ll see about that. We play Quip Lash. We do like a bomb de-wiring thing. We just try to keep it up, keep it fresh, keep it interesting. Then, the biggest thing that we do, that we started doing in 2021 was something called Camp Cobble. That means everybody who is available can fly into New York for one week. We rent out an office space. One of our investors is a big real estate person and gets us into one of the big downtown buildings. I don’t know if I’m allowed to even say it, so that’s why I’m not.
But all of that being said, [inaudible 00:14:31], we actually just got our first official office that those of us who are around the New York area can go into a couple times a week. I’m not at all… I like to leave it as open as possible if you work better at home, work from home. If you work better in an office, let’s go in the office. I really just try to keep it flexible and I definitely lead generally with a compassionate first approach.
Adam DeGraide:
That’s great. For me, I like people and I miss the office environment. I’ve had offices of 180 people at one point.
Jordan Scott:
Wow.
Adam DeGraide:
My last business, we get up to 90 employees.
Jordan Scott:
Wow.
Adam DeGraide:
I get a lot less trouble though remote, because I can’t say anything stupid in mass.
Jordan Scott:
I don’t know. I think it’s even more dangerous on Zoom. You don’t even know [inaudible 00:15:19] no camera or whatever.
Adam DeGraide:
Oh no, no. I’m way more dangerous in person, trust me. Some people say sometimes I lack a filter and so I’ll just read a news story and I’ll just run in and blab it out. 50% of the people agree with me, 50% don’t and that usually, it’s where the infighting happens and someone gets thrown out the door.
Jordan Scott:
Oh, dear.
Adam DeGraide:
No, it’s not that bad. I’m only half serious. When you think about a startup, so you were in journalism, to go from that idea to funding your own startup, it seems a little crazy. Tell the folks a little bit about that transition.
Jordan Scott:
Yeah, I mean, I went to NYU and mainly studied journalism and fiction writing and very creative. I always loved technology and was an early adopter of different apps and things. But once I got my dream job at CBS, The Morning Show, I very quickly realized that I didn’t want any of those jobs at that business and sort of was like, “Well, I’m young, I’m going to try to figure out,” and I have a very small inkling of an idea and I’m going to just freelance.
Meanwhile, I actually made more money freelancing than I ever did at CBS. They don’t pay you anything. I just was starting this business and it started with I opened an Instagram account and I started the newsletter and I threw up a Wix site and that was it. I just started putting content out there and it was called IDK Tonight, actually.
Adam DeGraide:
Okay.
Jordan Scott:
That grew a following pretty quickly. Realizing that people love to consume content, but again realizing that there was nothing that helped you actually make a decision on that content. Everything was just keeping lists. When the time came to actually do something, we were all in loss. It was like either you’re overwhelmed, you don’t know what to do, you do the same old thing and yours is not happening.
Adam DeGraide:
You know what I call that? Paralysis through analysis.
Jordan Scott:
Definitely.
Adam DeGraide:
People get it all the time. When there’s too many choices, they choose nothing.
Jordan Scott:
Yep. No, 100%. It’s totally textbook, which is why Cobble is really playing around with a lot of different fun psychology driven tools around the power of choice and basically being able to predict when there’s going to be a match between people, before they even realize it. Taking into account where the users are, and what their history has looked like, and what their spending has looked like, and making sure that we can put the absolute best possible recommendation not just for me or not just for one person. Our really cool exciting thing is that we care about the overlap and the match and the final compromise and the final decision. That’s what we’re focused on.
Adam DeGraide:
Yeah.
Jordan Scott:
I feel like so much out there is about targeting the single user and we really just fundamentally believe we don’t make decisions completely by ourselves. I say, “Casper, the mattress company can target me all day long on Instagram or wherever else, but ultimately I’m going to talk about that with my husband. He’s sleeping on it too.” To be able to reach both of us in one place would be astronomically more valuable.
Adam DeGraide:
Yeah. If you’re part of a group and the group has things in trends that they like. I’m assuming that part of your revenue model is going to be for advertisers.
Jordan Scott:
Well, actually it’s funny that you say that, because I mean, A, I just gave an example like that, but we’re actually not super interested with advertising and I’ll tell you why. Number one is, we need our users to trust the recommendations that we’re giving them as much as we possibly can. I wouldn’t want to dilute the experience with, “This is a little bit higher up, because they’re paying,” or whatever it might be. Now, that being said, one of our revenue opportunities is in larger scale partnerships. Imagine a partnership with Airbnb, where every time we drive someone to making a decision on where to stay, we get paid by Airbnb. It’s sort of a [inaudible 00:19:23] share, sort of a partnership and we’re starting to put those in place the last two years.
Adam DeGraide:
I wouldn’t be afraid of advertisers in a lot of ways. I mean as long as the end user knows that it’s an advertisement, versus one of your recommendations, I think people can tell the difference.
Jordan Scott:
Yes.
Adam DeGraide:
We’re pretty smart people.
Jordan Scott:
Definitely very smart. It’s not so much that I don’t think that they can tell the difference. It’s more that I just want them to have an ad-free experience if possible. I feel like we get ads everywhere, all over the place. When it comes to making the best decision for you, I don’t even want to cloud for one second an ad in your face. Who knows? I say that now, but absolutely things could change. We’re focused and [inaudible 00:20:08].
Adam DeGraide:
You start to need money and you go public. You’re worth a billion bucks.
Jordan Scott:
Exactly. There you go. I mean, I think that there’s other aspects of the business that are far more valuable than what advertising could do for us, but at the same time it’s sort of the tried and true. I never say never. I mean, people all the time are like, “This should be a dating app. If someone’s out there that has the exact same matches as you, then you should be introduced to them,” or someone says, “This is just a great way-“
Adam DeGraide:
That’s not a bad idea.
Jordan Scott:
Trust me, I’ve heard it all. I’ve thought about it all. But the biggest, I’m sure as you know, the biggest death to startups is lack of focus and lack of direction.
Adam DeGraide:
You got to deliver on your MVP first.
Jordan Scott:
Yes.
Adam DeGraide:
Then, once your MVP is delivered, then you can duct tape it all together like Facebook, Twitter, and Google does.
Jordan Scott:
There you go.
Adam DeGraide:
They just keep duct taping everything together and then you have a giant ball of duct tape. It’s fascinating. Even the Twitter thing recently. I did an interview back several months and I was like, “How on earth does Twitter have 4,000 employees?”
Jordan Scott:
Yeah.
Adam DeGraide:
What did these people do?
Jordan Scott:
I think about-
Adam DeGraide:
Sure enough, I was right. One of the first moves Elon made when he came in there was like, “We don’t need 75% of these people.” It was very interesting, because I had a guy on that worked for a large, one of the top 10 software companies in the world, and he said that the conversations, the reasons why they have so many employees, 5% of the people do all the work. The other 95% are there just to make the company look big.
Jordan Scott:
That’s depressing.
Adam DeGraide:
Well, it’s depressing, but it’s kind of true. I mean, [inaudible 00:21:43] what could those people possibly been doing? Twitter is the most simple app on the planet. But anyway, [inaudible 00:21:49] this is just the ranting and ravings of a mad man. That’s me by the way. Speaking of mad man, check this out. This is cool.
Jordan Scott:
What is this?
Adam DeGraide:
My brother has a band, Dirt Poor Robins. It says, “No more coal, no more sticks, this year you get the apocalypse.”
Jordan Scott:
Wow. You know what, I love a hard direction for a brand and he certainly knows how to do that. Is that Santa Claus riding the-
Adam DeGraide:
It’s actually not. It’s totally the opposite direction of his brand. He just made a bunch of different Christmas things and he said to me… I’m a heavy metal guy. I’m in a hard rock band myself.
Jordan Scott:
Oh, cool.
Adam DeGraide:
He is like, “Hey, I designed this shirt just for you, because I knew you were going to love it.” I’m like, “This is amazing.”
Jordan Scott:
Wow.
Adam DeGraide:
Santa Claus riding on a dragon. Do you-
Jordan Scott:
I’m actually, yeah-
Adam DeGraide:
I was just wanting to ask you about that entertainment wise, because you’re doing TV and movies. Are you doing music like concerts, venues and things like that with Cobble?
Jordan Scott:
Concerts, yes, as long as there are events in our launch cities. But it’s interesting, we were curious about getting into music and music recommendations. I mean, we’re never going to beat out a Spotify or an Apple Music in terms of knowing brilliant-
Adam DeGraide:
No, but people are hanging out together and they’re going to dinner. They’re driving in cars together.
Jordan Scott:
Yes.
Adam DeGraide:
It’s not a bad idea.
Jordan Scott:
Make a mixed playlist, boom. Yeah, no, it’s definitely interesting. I actually love Audioslave. I don’t know. I mean, I’m not a heavy metal fan. Well, I shouldn’t say that [inaudible 00:23:14].
Adam DeGraide:
Well, I know Audioslave. I know Audioslave.
Jordan Scott:
Well, great band. Definitely eclectic taste over here. But yeah, I mean, the curators are a big aspect to Cobble, but it’s only one facet, right? Because in order to be really scalable, you can’t have boots on the ground in absolutely every single city. We want to make sure we have boots on the ground in most major cities, but then partnership content, user-generated content that’s all sort of being developed as we speak to launch and scale even faster.
Adam DeGraide:
That’s awesome. I got to tell you, I love it when I meet smart people that have great ideas and they have a passion to do it and it sounds like you guys are really doing something great. Hold on a second, because I do want to read something on your website afterwards, to get your perspective right after this break. Here’s another amazing message from another great sponsor on the David vs. Goliath podcast. You’re with Adam DeGraide, and who knows, this year maybe you get an apocalypse. Who knows? We’ll be right back.
Jordan Scott:
Hope not.
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Adam DeGraide:
We’re back. Jordan does not want an apocalypse. Do you want an apocalypse? This guy wants an apocalypse. I felt like 2020 was the apocalypse to me. Anyway, I love what you said here on your website. Basically, there’s a part where you said, “You can do all these things, like for free.” You used the word like.
Jordan Scott:
Mm-hmm.
Adam DeGraide:
Now, I was just schooled by my company. I have a brand-new software called automatemysocial.com and it literally, you can automate your social media as a business, like forever. Because I use the word like, people are like, “Why do you? You don’t need the word like, you just say forever.” I’m like, “No, this is Valley Girl talk. Like forever.” I thought it was awesome that you used the same thing.
Jordan Scott:
Listen, it’s tone. If someone can hear you speaking, it has such a more profound impact on them. It makes you seem like a human being, whether that’s Valley Girl or that’s whoever the hell you are.
Adam DeGraide:
Yeah.
Jordan Scott:
I think the more human you can make your brand, the better.
Adam DeGraide:
I love it. I love it. I think what I find fascinating with people, is that a lot of great ideas are had, and very few are gone forward with. I think that’s a shame. One of the things that I’ve always said in my life, is that for me not to use my unique gifts, times, and talents that I believe God has given me, would not only be a detriment to me, but I’d be stealing from you. I know that sounds crazy, but think about the artists, or the authors, or the movies that have impacted you and moved in your life. Imagine if that writer didn’t write it or that screenplay didn’t come to fruition and that didn’t impact your life.
Jordan Scott:
Yeah.
Adam DeGraide:
There’s a part of you that would be missing. I tell inspiring entrepreneurs that watch this show all the time, “Don’t let your idea die with you. You have an idea, go for it. “That’s one of the things I wanted to finish up in the last segment here, was that concept with you.
Jordan Scott:
Well, I would love to add to that. I think that something in there is around, even if you think that someone else has this idea, right? “Oh, somebody else is going to come up with that. Someone else is going to do that,” fine. You can have the, “Exact same idea,” you have different brains. The way you execute it, the way you build it, in what order and what shape, where, when, how is it just has to be different.
People always, they’ll message me, they’ll see something, they’ll be like, “Oh, this sort of looks like Cobble, is somebody copying Cobble?” I’m like, “Great, go for it. Copy, cobble, copy exactly what we have right now. You still don’t have my brain that’s going to continue to lead and drive this company.” I just think that if that’s even a hesitation on anyone listening, “Do I start this? Do I not?” You can start it totally, totally, totally for free. Make a newsletter on Substack, start an Instagram, start a Twitter, whatever it is, start growing your audience, the way Adam, you have this podcast. This is just get another way to get your message out there. Get what you’re building out there and anyone can do it and you just should do it.
Adam DeGraide:
I totally agree. They should do it. I think it’s fair. There is an intrinsic thing that entrepreneurs like us have, where I don’t want to say we don’t lack fear, because obviously there’s obviously fear, and there’s concern, and doubts all the time.
Jordan Scott:
Sure.
Adam DeGraide:
What was it in you that said, “I’m going to do this?” It’s a process, but you did it. What is the intangible and what advice do you give to somebody who’s sitting where you were right now, to get them over that ledge, to go for it?
Jordan Scott:
If you can’t stop thinking about it and if you just feel completely lit up about it and you want everyone you come into contact with, you just sort of want to talk about it, those are all signs that it’s a real passion. When you want to just hop on your computer and start typing about it and making lists about things you want to do for it, and all of these things are indicators that you are passionate enough.
If you don’t feel like you have those things, then just keep looking for what your passion is. A lot of people say like, “Well, how the hell do I know what my passion is?” Find the things that bother you the most. What just makes you insane, just so frustrated? Whatever it is, that’s the thing that can 100% be solved and be solved by you. I think you can validate that idea, by talking to other people. “Does this frustrate you? Does this bother you? How could this look as a product as something that solves this?” I just would go from there. Does that sort of answer your question?
Adam DeGraide:
It does. I mean, I think it’s a good idea. What drives you crazy? Fix it.
Jordan Scott:
Yeah, pretty much.
Adam DeGraide:
You were tired of being on text message threads with your friends, with all these great ideas and never doing nothing. You’re like-
Jordan Scott:
Exactly.
Adam DeGraide:
I am done with that. I’m going to build an application called Try Cobble. That is amazing. How could people find you, Jordan?
Jordan Scott:
Yeah, the app is available in the app store. Just search Cobble. Our website, our Instagram, our Twitter, every social media platform you can find us at @trycobble. Yeah, we are launched in New York, LA, Miami, almost Miami, LA, Atlanta, New York, though right now. I don’t know when this is going to come out. Miami is probably available. Three other cities might be available. We’ll see.
Adam DeGraide:
Well, this is coming out next week, so it probably-
Jordan Scott:
[Inaudible 00:31:26].
Adam DeGraide:
This is coming out next week. This is the holidays.
Jordan Scott:
Okay, [inaudible 00:31:29]. Give it a couple weeks.
Adam DeGraide:
This is the holidays, man. It’s tough to get people booked around this time of year for myself and for me to even muster up the motivation to do it. But I’m so glad I did, Jordan. It’s been great having you on the podcast. Have you had a good time?
Jordan Scott:
Oh, absolutely. It was awesome talking to you, Adam.
Adam DeGraide:
That’s awesome. Well, I look forward to continuing to goof around in your application and when my city comes online, I’ll make sure, I’ll give you some positive feedback.
Jordan Scott:
Yeah, in the meantime-
Adam DeGraide:
If I have anything, I don’t want to say criticism wise, but if I need to help you think through some other things, I’m sure you’re open to the feedback of your users.
Jordan Scott:
I demand it. Please, please. All of the feedback.
Adam DeGraide:
I demand it.
Jordan Scott:
In the meantime, definitely make some plans with your wife on what to make for dinner. There’s lots of good recipes in Cobble.
Adam DeGraide:
Yeah, I’m going to definitely do that. Thank you so much, Jordan for joining us.
Jordan Scott:
[inaudible 00:32:20]. All right.
Adam DeGraide:
Thank you so much. Hey, Merry Christmas, happy holidays.
Jordan Scott:
Happy holidays.
Adam DeGraide:
If I don’t see you. Guys look at this, another amazing episode is in the can here on the David vs. Goliath podcast. I’m your host, Adam DeGraide. You are listening to Jordan Scott, and we’ll see you next week. Have a great day.
